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It Is Time That We Start Referring to Loot Boxes as Gambling

We clearly live in a world where gambling is regulated by laws in every single country but, for some crazy reason, it is not regulated in the game industry.

The game industry is flooded with loot boxes that are presented as something fun. You invest a small amount of money to open a box, the box will contain something that is insanely valuable or something that has zero value whatsoever. The latter outcome is more probable. Sounds familiar?

There are numerous violations here, a great example is the CS: GO Lotto case where two popular YouTubers ProSyndicate and TmarTn promoted the CS: GO lotto website by opening loot boxes and getting huge value out of them. What they didn’t tell the audience is that the website is owned by them and the draws were rigged, to begin with. They got away with no fine and by that, it basically means these two never did anything wrong. What was the end result? The whole drama brought the duo even more followers and the CS: GO lotto website is up and running with even more “fans”.

Another “loot box” story broke out when the shady website G2A implemented a section on the website where you purchase a loot box and get a random game in return. Popular YouTuber Jim Sterling addressed this issue by pointing out the stupidity of the loot box system and got mocked and thanked at the same time by G2A on Twitter.

 

 

As seen in these two examples, addressing this issue will bring even more customers and more people who are ready to lose their money on gambling. It seems that the gaming industry is a great loophole that is being exploited over and over and no one has a problem with it.

How is it not ok for an underaged kid to play roulette or slot machines online but it’s perfectly fine for that same kid to spend money on boxes that have the exact same effect. If an item that the user receives has any monetary value it has to be considered gambling.

Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as “the stakes”) on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize. The outcome of the wager is often immediate, such as a single roll of dice, a spin of a roulette wheel, or a horse crossing the finish line, but longer time frames are also common, allowing wagers on the outcome of a future sports contest or even an entire sports season.

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I think that no further explanation is needed, but I do think that it is time for authorities to take this matter seriously and prevent any further damage. The loot box system has no place in the gaming community, it should be regulated and kept far away from underaged children.

20 Comments

20 Comments

  1. Paul

    September 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Unfortunately the gaming media like eurogamer, ign, et al, receive their vast income from the status quo. Never forget that these sites consider the publishers as their customer and us the product. This is why “reviews” carefully avoid letting the consumer know about serious bugs, performance issues and other problems; the publishers will complain and threaten to stop advertising on them. It is the editor’s job to ensure that this does not happen. This is not a new problem, it’s been going on since the pulp magazines published in the 1980s.

    • Steve Dorn

      September 15, 2017 at 7:06 pm

      That sounds like Gamergate talk. Are you a harassing misogynist???

      • Mei Checking In

        September 15, 2017 at 7:22 pm

        Found the incel.

  2. Wieldofrost

    September 15, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    I would’ve thought of loot boxes more akin to Magic The Gathering packs than gambling, like in Hearthstone or Heroes of the Storm.

    • Les Adla

      September 15, 2017 at 9:22 pm

      mtg packs are gambling too at their core

    • Daniel

      September 18, 2017 at 2:26 am

      They are, technically. But the only reason card games got away with their form of pseudo-gambling is because, well, it technically isn’t gambling since A. you’re not getting money, and B. it’s extremely difficult to argue what the official, legally recognized difference in value between a legendary and a common item is.

      That and it’s card games, which were mostly shrugged off as stupid kids fluff. Even the Trading Card companies didn’t expect them to explode in popularity like they did. Now it’s video game’s turn, and once again nobody cares because “It’s just Cosmetic!”.

  3. Miguel Munoz

    September 15, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    The problem I have with this article is how they said you’ll get nothing of value. You also get something in all the game loot games I play. In gambling there is a chance to lose it all. Overwatch you might get a duplicate, but you get in game currenncy for duplicates. Thus thats not a zero value, you literally get currency to buy stuff with. Lots of games do this. Even the skins you sell in csgo is worth currency.

    So saying you get zero value, especially most of the time is false. I don’t see it as gambling. I’m always getting something. You don’t always win in slots.

    • q

      September 15, 2017 at 9:27 pm

      Let’s not that pretend that spending two and a half dollars to get a skin worth five cents isn’t close enough to getting nothing.

    • Bexnxn

      September 16, 2017 at 1:07 am

      You’re obviously part of the problem.

  4. Chuu

    September 16, 2017 at 1:20 am

    This article is blatantly incorrect and proves the author has no idea what he’s talking about. Crates are controlled by valve and while i agree that they are gambling, the argument that ProSyndicate and TmarTn profited by opening loot boxes is complete fallacy.

    “Two popular YouTubers ProSyndicate and TmarTn promoted the CS: GO lotto website by opening loot boxes and getting huge value out of them. What they didn’t tell the audience is that the website is owned by them and the draws were rigged, to begin with.”

    ProSyndicate and TmarTn owned a lottery website that operated like roulette. you give your skins to a bot, the website spins the roulette wheel and if you win, you get the in game items of everyone else playing that round. Because this is website controlled, ProSyndicate and TmarTn were able to make the rolls end on them whenever they were streaming and garnering themselves more views, more ad impressions and ultimately more people on their site to win meaning they got more of the “cut” that the website took from every pot.

    • Daniel

      September 18, 2017 at 12:32 am

      “This article is blatantly incorrect and proves the author has no idea what he’s talking about. Crates are controlled by valve and while i agree that they are gambling, the argument that ProSyndicate and TmarTn profited by opening loot boxes is complete fallacy. ”
      You’re somewhat mistaken there, friend.

      Yes, games like CS:GO have lootbox systems that only Valve (or the appropriate developer) have any control over.

      But the sites run by ProSyndicate ALSO had their own lootbox systems that THEY controlled, so they could rig the results of any lootboxed from their own site that they opened.

  5. Assy Mcgee

    September 16, 2017 at 5:11 am

    It’s time to stop being anti-capitalist cucks.

  6. James Ribe

    September 16, 2017 at 10:52 am

    In the US (at least), the industry around casino games is called the “gaming industry” and the industry around card/board/video games is the “games industry”. Might be worth revising the wording because the gaming industry is very much involved in gambling; that’s their core business!

    • 4TheGamers

      September 16, 2017 at 11:16 am

      Thanks for the heads-up, will change that right away.

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Media Create Sales: Week 46, 2017 (Nov 13 – Nov 19)

New media create sales sees Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon topping the charts. Super Mario Oddysey is in third place and the boycotted EA game, Star Wars Battlefront 2 is in fourth with 38.769 units sold.

01./00. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon {2017.11.17} – 667.439 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon Dual Pack {Pokemon Ultra Sun \\ Pokemon Ultra Moon} {2017.11.17} – 247.782 / NEW
03./01. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} – 62.024 / 714.308
04./00. [PS4] Star Wars Battlefront II {2017.11.14} – 38.769 / NEW
05./02. [PS4] Call of Duty: World War II # {2017.11.03} – 34.116 / 269.483
06./03. [NSW] Splatoon 2 {2017.07.21} – 25.118 / 1.343.255
07./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: 5,000 Year Journey to a Faraway Hometown Online {2017.11.16} – 24.836 / NEW
08./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest X: 5,000 Year Journey to a Faraway Hometown Online {2017.11.16} – 18.444 / NEW
09./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe {2017.04.28} – 16.532 / 819.004
10./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest X: 5,000 Year Journey to a Faraway Hometown Online {2017.11.16} – 13.657 / NEW
11./12. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # {2017.03.03} – 7.004 / 641.853
12./18. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX {2017.09.22} – 6.642 / 122.333
13./08. [3DS] Girls Mode 4 {2017.11.02} – 6.523 / 48.349
14./04. [PS4] Need for Speed Payback {2017.11.10} – 6.440 / 27.404
15./07. [PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved {2017.10.26} – 6.178 / 109.978
16./06. [PS4] Assassin’s Creed Origins {2017.10.27} – 5.593 / 88.336
17./13. [PS4] Gran Turismo Sport # {2017.10.19} – 5.063 / 187.503
18./09. [PS4] .hack//G.U. Last Recode # {2017.11.01} – 3.738 / 72.214
19./20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ {2016.11.23} – 3.444 / 270.765
20./00. [PS4] The Sims 4 # {2017.11.14} – 3.428 / NEW

Top 20 

PS4 – 9
NSW – 6
3DS – 4
WIU – 1

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+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  NSW  |     86.999 |     79.958 |            |  2.252.328 |            |  2.252.328  |
|  3DS  |     43.480 |     19.369 |    107.631 |  1.372.373 |  1.334.965 | 23.533.114  |
|  PS4  |     26.302 |     26.058 |     38.026 |  1.471.814 |  1.191.150 |  5.480.133  |
|  PSV  |      3.090 |      3.210 |      9.191 |    293.179 |    676.103 |  5.736.246  |
|  XB1  |        247 |      1.465 |        186 |      8.071 |      6.490 |     83.654  |
|  PS3  |         46 |         41 |        625 |     19.919 |     56.347 | 10.469.706  |
|  WIU  |         43 |         36 |      3.251 |     15.500 |    263.647 |  3.328.708  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    160.207 |    130.137 |    158.910 |  5.433.184 |  3.528.702 | 50.883.889  | 
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